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Old March 23, 2012   #101
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THE EUROPEAN UNION’S trade commissioner has asked its highest legal authority to rule on whether the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) is in breach of EU law.

Karel De Gucht, the Belgian in charge of European international trade policy, said he and the other 26 commissioners had “discussed and agreed in general” with his proposal to ask the European Court of Justice to rule on the treaty.

The Luxembourg-based court will be asked to rule on whether the controversial treaty, which has provoked worldwide outcry, might pose a legal risk to the rights of European citizens and businesses.

Specifically, the court will be asked to examine whether ACTA is “incompatible – in any way – with the EU’s fundamental rights and freedoms, such as freedom of expression and information or data protection and the right to property in case of intellectual property.”

Although the European Council has already adopted ACTA on a unanimous basis, individual member states cannot proceed to ratify the agreement before the European Parliament approves the treaty itself.


MEPs are likely to vote on the matter in June, but it is now expected that this vote would be pushed back to the autumn if the ECJ has not issued its ruling by that time.

“I believe the European Commission has a responsibility to provide our parliamentary representatives and the public at large with the most detailed and accurate information available,” the commissioner said.

“So, a referral will allow for Europe’s top court to independently clarify the legality of this agreement.”

De Gucht said he shared the concern expressed by European citizens about the potential ramifications of the deal, which requires individual countries to offer equal protection and enforcement procedures against digital copyright infringement as they do to stop the spread of counterfeited physical goods.

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the western world's becoming increasingly stupid and paranoid. they need to cut all these sopa/pipa/acta crap and focus more on their failing economy. what a bunch of idiots. lol
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but the millionaire singers, moviestars, companies are making hundreds of millions and we are robbing them by using the interwebs....yeah

and im sorry i dont buy stuff b4 i know if its worth my hard earned $$>.>
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but the millionaire singers, moviestars, companies are making hundreds of millions and we are robbing them by using the interwebs....yeah

and im sorry i dont buy stuff b4 i know if its worth my hard earned $$>.>
What you are forgetting about are all the people who work and don't become famous. The engineers, the writers, the secretaries and such.

I think they really need to redo copyright laws, but at the same time not make them imbalanced. For example, we love this site and the anime it shows, but essentially we all are taking from the writers, artist, and the companies that allow them to be more than some random guy or girl who posts their stuff on DeviantArt or even better: Youtube, trying to create a audience.
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the western world's becoming increasingly stupid and paranoid. they need to cut all these sopa/pipa/acta crap and focus more on their failing economy. what a bunch of idiots. lol
The Western world's economies are mostly exporting stuff which copyright protects since manufacturing has mostly been given to the eastern world. It only makes sense for them to try this Draconian BS.

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yeah, we arent idiots. but i agree the goverment is.
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but the millionaire singers, moviestars, companies are making hundreds of millions and we are robbing them by using the interwebs....yeah

and im sorry i dont buy stuff b4 i know if its worth my hard earned $$>.>
Singers and bands make most of their money from live concerts. They don't make much from cd sales, only the fat cat company execs profit from those sales. The music industry has a long history of screwing over the artists as much as they can get away with.

...Then the industry takes the extra money they swindled from the artists and makes huge "donations" (aka bribes) to government officials to get them to try to pass idiotic laws like sopa/pipa/acta

For the singers/bands:
Music shared on internet = more fans = bigger& more concerts = more money for artists


We were discussing it on another forum a while back. Swiss courts ruled file sharing was legal as long as it wasn't harming the industry, and they also ruled there was enough evidence that showed it was not harming the industry. I guess Switzerland actually looked at the evidence, and didn't just make decisions on how big a bribe they received

I swear, the US govt and all its branches are just totally corrupt
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